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Canadian Tire Service Leaves Me Unimpressed

My last post about experts was inspired by some work I'm getting done on my car. I was never really interested in cars, but now that I feel like I'm being taken advantage of I find that I have a little bit more motivation to learn. Here's the story...

Last weekend I took my car (a 1991 Dodge Spirit) into Canadian Tire in Kanata because the exhaust was shot and I was getting some noises around the front and rear tires. They fixed three things, and all three repairs were less than ideal.

The exhaust was replaced from the catalytic converter back, which I expected. What I didn't expect was for the mechanic to put a $65 muffler on a 13 year-old car by default instead of a cheap one. I didn't find this out until I got the bill.

The rear ball joint was replaced because it "had play", which means it moved around more than it should. I asked to get the old part back (and my request is on the receipt) but it was never returned to me. Besides that, there is *still* noise in the back right. Either there was more than one thing wrong on that side or they misdiagnosed the problem.

Those two problems take a backseat to the third problem. It comes with a story:

The third thing they fixed was the left front constant velocity (CV) joint. This joint delivers engine power to the wheel and ensures that even when the wheels are turned the tires move at the same speed (the constant velocity part).

The repairs were done on a weekend, and they called me 30 minutes before closing on Sunday to pick the car up. I couldn't make it down there in time so I picked the car up before work on Monday. After paying the bill, I drove the car down the Queensway from Kanata to Riverside to go to work, about 20 minutes.

Before work I went to Tim Hortons for a coffee. As I was going through the drive through I had to make a sharp left turn. During the turn I heard the loudest BANG I've ever heard a car make in my life. It was massive, I could easily feel it through my feet. This is twenty minutes after I got the car fixed, and I couldn't believe it.

The CV joint in my car consists of two joints, inner and outer, and it bends when the wheel is turned. All of you engineers out there will know about the concept of a moment and how that relates to forces. The larger the moment arm, the larger the force that is applied on the rotating system.

You can imagine the type of effect this has on a rotating front axle, when it's being bent to its maximum because I'm making a hard left turn through a drive through. The force is strongest at that point because the bent axle acts like a moment arm, even if it is at an angle. This is basic university physics.

I don't know what the bang is yet, but all evidence points to a broken motor mount (or engine mount). The motor mounts hold the engine to the frame of the car and my car has three of them: one in the front and two on each side. The two on each side allow for some (millimeters) lateral movement through turns and the one on the front prevents the engine from torquing forward or back when the tranmission is engaged and delivering power to the front axles/wheels.

When the wheels are turned all the way left the CV joint is acting like a moment arm, generating more rotational force than if the axle were straight. This puts increased stress on the mounts, which are trying to prevent the engine from moving. This is why I think that the CV joint repair and the motor mount failure (if that's what it was) are related.

The evidence mounted when I looked up information about motor mounts in my Haynes repair manual. It says that the motor mounts should be adjusted after a driveaxle replacement.

I went back to see the Canadian Tire on Friday but I was greeted by firm denial that the CV joint had anything to do with the motor mount failure. The guy (Mike) said that he's never heard of having to adjust the motor mounts after a front axle replacement, contradicting the Haynes manual. Guess who I believe.

He also said that if the mechanic had adjusted the mounts, it would have been on the bill (it wasn't). The same guy also repeatedly referred to my car is a Sprint instead of a Spirit, so I just left. It was obvious he didn't know what he was talking about if he couldn't even get my car right.

Mike brought up a good point though: the motor mounts could already have been damaged. As far as I know, they are the original mounts and are 13 years old. My point is that they should have been adjusted, or in the very least inspected. From a casual inspection, they may have seen that the mounts were too damaged to handle the force of a new CV joint and would have insisted that they be replaced (from what I've heard, broken motor mounts are a safety issue and they won't let you leave with an unsafe car).

The other possibility is that the CV joint is defective and exerted an irregular amount of force on the mounts. I see this as a possibility because they don't replace a CV joint with a new part, CV joints are retooled and reused. The CV joint and the labour are under warrantee, so if the CV joint is defective it is replaced at no charge.

This is what I'm going to ask them to do when I go in:

1. Find out what the bang was (probably motor mount, but confirm it).
2. Check out the state of the brand new CV joint to make sure it wasn't damaged by the bang.

Then I'd like an explanation of why or why not the failure is related to the CV joint replacement. If they didn't inspect or adjust the motor mounts when they replaced the CV joint I don't think they exercised due diligence in their repair, and should offer to share the cost of new motor mounts to compensate me for this laziness.

If the CV joint failed dramatically and damaged another part, I'm not sure of their policy on that. True, the motor mounts may already have been damaged, but they worked just fine with the old CV joint (and I made that same sharp left every weekday through Tim Hortons).

Given that the damage happened 20 minutes after I got the repairs the connection seems undeniable. The new CV joint caused this failure and I'd like Canadian Tire to take some responsibility for it or I'll take my business elsewhere.

Update: I went back to Canadian Tire twice last weekend, and both times the lines were long so I decided against it. The weekend is the only time I can go to that location because I need to drive to work. I wasn't too happy with what they did on the previous job either, so why reward them with more money?

So on Monday I went to the Canadian Tire (near my work) on Coventry Road at 7:30am. I told them the problems (vibration at high speed, engine moving around) and they said they'd get back to me "late morning or early afternoon".

2:30 PM (seven hours later) rolls around and still no phone call. Since I'd have to make arrangements to get home if my car wasn't ready by the end of the day, I gave them a call. They said it would be another hour before it was looked at. I told them to cancel the service and that I was picking it up.

The next day I went to a small garage near my work named Eagle Automotive. They looked at my car and determined that two engine mounts were cooked, the front right engine mount and the transmission-engine mount.

These two mounts are two shaped pieces of metal with rubber in between them which serves as an insulator. Over time the rubber breaks down and stops doing its job. The tranmission-engine mount was particularly bad because the outside piece of metal was split right down the middle (probably the source of the BANG I heard earlier).

They also removed a cosmetic piece of metal from the top of the right rear coil spring that was causing the clunking noise. I was happy with the service from this smaller garage and I think I'll stick with them.

Now that the car has new mounts, it drives stiffer and has even more vibration in the front end. What I'm afraid of now is that this vibration will slowly shake the car apart and break other stuff, so it should probably be fixed too. It could be an unbalanced wheel or the right CV joint or ..... *sigh*

I think the main problem with big garages like Canadian Tire is that you don't initially have direct communication with the mechanic. You tell a service agent what the problem is and he tries to guess what to do about it. Canadian Tire fixed neither the vibration in the front end or the clunking in the right rear (the problems) they just fixed damaged parts (the symptoms/results of the problems). It's a good start but they didn't finish the job. You wouldn't treat a patient this way, why do the same with a car?

It also doesn't help that their customers often don't know much about cars, but if you're going to serve and make money from the uneducated segment of the market then you have to take some responsibility for it.

As for Canadian Tire's work causing another part to fail: I still maintain that it's likely that it did. Should they have to pay for it? No, because it was just a weak part stressed by a stronger new part. What I was disappointed about was the fact thet they didn't check all of the parts that might be affected by this stronger part to see if they might break. It wouldn't have killed them to inspect the mounts. I've have the old mounts and it's obvious they are worn out just by looking at them.

I'm just glad my Dad picked up this engine noise or I never would have known I had an engine mount problem. The noise was so subtle that I didn't even notice it.

Posted at November 07, 2004 at 10:26 AM EST
Last updated November 07, 2004 at 10:26 AM EST
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Aaah. CV Joints. I had both of the CV Joint Boots go on my Tercel. Everytime I would turn, the loudest clunking/banging sound would be heard.

I ended up replacing both them and that solved the problem.

As for the muffler, one time, my muffler literaly cut near the middle and close to falling off. I went to canadian tire and asked them to simply repair it, as in weld the broken area. The guy said sure. Come back tomorrow.

I come back and then some other guy says NO! We don't weld. We only replace mufflers. It's gonna cost $x .. I forget..over a hundred for sure.

I'm like what?!? Took it to another garage and got it welded for $20.

Scrappy Tire, as I like to call them, have mediocre service when it comes to cars. Very wishy washy.

» Posted by: roy at November 7, 2004 12:48 PM

I don't really trust the guys at crappy tire much, they always have a different answer.

My brother went there for getting new wheels put on his car. He then drove home 20 minutes on the Queensway, got home and checked the nuts on the tires. They were all only finger tight! He could have lost a wheel, wrecked his car, and / or killed himself or someone else. That's just negligent if you ask me.

There is a good garage on the way into Stittsville ("Stittsville Auto" ??), but it's usually very busy. I was impressed with the guys there though.

» Posted by: Jim at November 8, 2004 10:56 AM

I suggest that you or anyone who reads this blog avoid the auto centre at Canadian Tire. I have heard nothing but complaints from customers and of registered mechanics warnings to avoid that place. I suggest that you look for a garage that actually works on onlder dodges or dodge, chrysler, gmc brands. I take advantage of talking to mechanics when ever I get the chance and many of them tell me that they only work on certain types of cars because the systems are now so very complicated. Also specialized tools are required for certain types of cars... Going to a garage that works on your brand of car generally gives you a better quality repair at a cheaper price.

» Posted by: James at November 9, 2004 04:52 PM

I will never go to Canadian Tire again! A couple of years ago my gas pump broke down. Fine, it was an older car. However, the closest garage was Canadian Tire. They installed a new pump, and tried to get me to repair both my fuel fitler and my fuel tank because they "can't guarantee your tank won't leak". Well the tank didn't leak before and since I hate Candian Tire I told them to only fix the pump since I would be taking the car to my mechanic. They insatalled the pump and when it was all said and done the bill was close to $600 (this did include a diagnostic). Ever since then I have had problems with that car. When I went to my own guy, a real mechanic, and had him put in the new filter and tank he noticed there was a hole in the gas tank... He also said the whole job at Canadian Tire ($600)only should have cost about $300. Needless to say I was not impressed.

» Posted by: Nate at November 9, 2004 10:55 PM

You got to be carefull with any auto mechanics, espically the one's that work at Canadian Tire. I had a friend that worked at Canadian Tire as a mechanic in high school. Needless to say, he wasn't too impressed some of the jobs the guys did there. Like James said, I'd prefer to go to a dealership the same brand as your car. They're more likely to do things right since they ultimantly want you to buy a car from them. Though I stress more likely.

» Posted by: Brennan at November 20, 2004 11:03 PM

The main reason that stores like Canadian Tire don't check every little detail (As suggested in the initial email by the initial author is that they are on more of a time commitment to get you through. You were already complaining about the time it takes to get your job done - if they were to check every detail that relates to every little problem - rather than simply starting with what seems obvious as they do - it would be twice as long for every vehicle. Plus, the biggest complaint they get from customers is about cost - if they checked everything, your $500 bill would quickly triple with all the things they could find wrong with each car.
Don't cut down big-box stores service level - they don't have the capacity to be as touchy-feely with you as a small garage simply because of the volume of cars they put through in comparison to a smaller garage. Keep in mind that the mechanics at Canadian Tire stores go through the exact same classes and training (if not more because of the backing of an owner) than mechanics at smaller garages.

» Posted by: Kevin at December 1, 2004 05:01 PM

I went to Canadian Tire and paid out over $300.00 in front end work, had problems went to another garage. I was told there and shown that the stabbalizer links I was told were put in new at Canadian Tire were worn out in 7 months, with little driving. Went back to Canadian Tire and told service manager about it, he told me I would have to pay labour only. Why would I pay labour again on a two parts that were not replaced in the first place. Stabbalizer Links do not were out in 7 months.

» Posted by: Keary at December 3, 2004 01:31 PM

Another CT Horror story! Tuesday December 7th I dropped my wives 2002 Neon off at the Coventry Rd. store in Ottawa to have 4 Nordic Ice Trac winter tires installed and the all seasons removed. As expected the wait was going to be at least 5 hours. Not a problem, I would leave the car there for the day. The person behind the counter seemed busy and rushed for time and quickly took my info and stated the final price. It included balancing and installation I was informed. Due to the weather I did not return for the vehicle till the next day, Wednesday, December 8th. Upon arriving home I opened the car trunk to remove the All Season Goodyear Radial (23km on the vehicle and tires) NO Tires! I immediately called the store to voice my concerns. Where are my tires, “well sir you ask for them to be disposed of, your invoice shows the $12.00 fee”. Why would I want to dispose of perfectly good tires, I just wanted to have winter tires installed. I was never asked if I wanted my all season radials disposed of, I assumed since it wasn’t discussed the tires would be bagged and placed into the trunk. To logical I guess. Today I returned to the store since I was informed that they would try to locate my tires but that the truck from the disposal company may have picked the tires up already. This I was told was the case, the tires could not be found. After a brief exchange of some heated words I was told that since I had signed the receipt that very little could be done for me. I demanded to speak to the manager but was told she would not be in till the afternoon and I would receive a phone call later today. Still waiting.

» Posted by: Terry at December 9, 2004 11:14 AM

About four years ago, I brought a 1992 Sunbird in to CT in Sudbury, Ontario, to have it checked out. It was leaking and overheating. A couple of my buddies with some mechanical smarts told me it would probably be my water pump. CT checked it out and told me my headgasket was busted and that it would cost me about $1200-$1500 to get the engine work done. I decided it was time instead to get some new wheels, so I GAVE my car to my brother-in-law. Guess what? He put a water pump in it and drove it problem-free for three years!

I warn people off Canadian Tire auto every chance I get.

» Posted by: Larry at December 29, 2004 03:56 PM

Me again. I thought some of you might enjoy this article.

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/1024857397160_20266597/

» Posted by: Larry at December 29, 2004 04:21 PM

That's it!!I've had it with Canadian Tire. A few years ago they had an old yukkie store in Peterborough. It was small and packed like a junk store. You couldn't find anything especially someone to wait on you. Then we got a bigger better store. I welcomed the change, hoping things would improve. No such luck. Several occassions I would go in, and have to search for an associate to help me find something, and usually leave dissatisfied. I wanted to buy a patio set, willing to spend over $500.00 for one. No one would wait on me. I swore I would never go back to that store, and I bought my patio set at the Brick next door. Well, then we got another new Canadian Tire store at the other end of town. I figured, OK, competition, so I will give them a try. I went in to buy a new bike for my child. I had 2 small kids with me. The bikes were hanging on a rack a little too high for me to reach. I struggled for at least 10 minutes, trying to get the bike down, and when it wasn't suitable, I struggled to get it back up. Three associates waltzed by, not one offering to help. Did they think this was my daily workout? Lazy idiots. Needless to say, I left without a bike and went to Zellers and was immediately assisted and left happy with a bike. Now it is Christmas, and Canadian Tire had a telescope on sale. I went to Pickering to try and get it so I could avoid the stores in Peterborough. Unfortunately, they were out and gave me a rain check. I had to use it in Peterborough. I went to the store here and had to FIND someone to help me as it was on the very top shelf. I used the rain check and bought it. A few days after Xmas, the sky was clear and the moon was full so we tried to set up the telescope. What a surprise. It had been returned by someone else because it was defective. There were notes inside the re-sealed box stating so. What a dirty trick!! LETS SELL THIS PIECE OF JUNK TO ANOTHER UNSUSPECTING CUSTOMER TO MAKE THEIR XMAS VERY MERRY!! I can't believe they would put a broken product back on the shelf. I am returning it tomorrow and they can shove the telescope you know where. I WILL NEVER STEP FOOT IN EITHER CANADIAN TIRE IN PETERBOROUGH AGAIN!!

» Posted by: adavis at January 1, 2005 06:05 PM

About a year ago I had purchesed a 4 litre container of Formula 1 oil from the Dalton drive canadian tire store in Calgary, Alberta. When I got home to change the oil on my vehicle I had opened the container to descover that it was used oil that I had purchesed from them. When I had returned to the ct store and explained to them what had happened they refused to allow me to exchange it for another container as they thought I had put the used oil in the contianer. Needless to say I was pretty much out raged as to what they had suggested I had done. It was an 8 dollar product when I was makeing a 5 figure salery at the time. Why would I try and do that for an 8 dollar product considerring the money I was making ?

Josh Oniel

» Posted by: Josh Oniel at January 4, 2005 03:26 PM

Never deal with Canadian Tire. My daughters car developed a leak in the power steering line, took it to Can.Tire on a Wed.,couldn't do it till Fri.AM, called Fri.noon to see if ready to pick up. They were unaware the car was in for service.Repaired it, took it home,next day she went to use the car - no power steering, all the fluid had leaked out under the car. Called CT, their response "Oh sometimes that happens" picked up car and repaired it again with no explanation. Same day our van was in for an oil change at 4:00, at 4:45 the service manager came out and said the drain plug had snapped and as all the mechanics had gone home we would have to leave the van overnight and they would repair first thing in morning - we informed him we had an appt.in London, 1-1/2 hrs.away at 10 in morning that we had booked for 6 mos.No problem. Next morning he calls and said they would have to put in a new oil pan as they couldn't guarantee drilling and putting in a new plug. Couldn't get a pan till Monday.Needed vehicle to get to appt.so told him to put in the plug.Also according to him, none of this was their responsibility, even though they had a tech doing the oil change who snapped the plug. 11:00 I called and vehicle was just done, no call to let us know. Needless to say we had to cancel our appt. Also they had previously installed a new serpentine belt on vehicle which was squealing badly since they replaced it. No problem before but was replaced on their recommendation for cracking. Now they say it is the belt tensioner that needs to be replaced. Funny it wasn't a problem before they replaced the belt. To put on a new oil pan and to fix the tensioner would be approx. 500.00, we had already just paid 203.00 for having the plug fixed that they broke. I called the store owner to complain who finally returned my call at 5:30. He said the plug was a previous problem, not their fault,that the mechanics had said it could possibly break if they tried to do an oil change (outright lie)Sorry for your luck. They screwed up two of our vehicles in one day. His excuse for the failure of the repair on my daughters car was she could have hit a bump on the way home and that is common for that type of repair.My 30.00 oil change could end up costing me 600.00.Nice profit if you can get it. Needless to say I will never deal with Can.Tire again. Should have learned our lesson with dealing with them previously when one time the mechanic didn't tighten the oil plug and we lost all our oil and another time after fixing a radiator they didn't put on hose clamps.I just figured with a new store and new mechanics things might be better.My advice - don't take your car to Can.Tire for service. Our store is in Wallaceburg, I'll deal with a small garage from now on, at least they are more interested in keeping their customers satisfied which is definately not high on the list for Can.Tire.

» Posted by: Mary Lou at February 13, 2005 06:13 AM

Welp, I just came back from the CTC service garage South end of Barrie and I'm thinking of taking them to small claims court. The car wouldn't start one day and had to be towed...timing belt. Reasonable since it had 210k and never been changed. 3 months later the gas tank started leaking. Reasonable since it's 4 years old and the 3rd tank and I've accepted the fact they just make sh$tty tanks for the car. I asked them to check the fuel pump just in case...it was FINE & dandy. One month later, the car doesn't start. I don't hear the fuel pump pressurizing when you first turn the key. The diagnostic came back "faulty coil..replaced". I'm starting to get suspicious now because they said the engine was flooded, but I didn't smell any gas under the hood. 3 days later...no start. Diagnosis...FUEL PUMP. OK you bastards, replace it and your service manager is gonna hear about it! Got a phone call...the cable to the fuel pump is badly corroded, pins are breaking blah blah. OK replace the )$)(*&%^% cable...Manager needs to start fearing for his life now. STOMP in to the store to talk to Manager Woodenhead...
- where's the diagnostic printout? - there isn't one because the mechanic just determined the pump to be defective
- when the tank was replaced a month ago the fuel pump was FINE, including the cable because the mechanic didn't recommend replacement. So how come 1 month later the pump doesn't work and the cable is badly corroded, pins breaking off? - Because you'll need to take our word for it.
- How come I didn't hear the pump pressurize but you say the engine was flooded? - the mechanic made the diagnosis, it's not related to the coil.
- I want a written diagnosis of the problem. - the mechanic will call you tomorrow.
- how can they diagnose the fuelpump if the cable is badly corroded with pins falling off? - the fuel pump could still be good, we don't know.

THIS IS GOING TO SMALL CLAIMS COURT AFTER I SUBMIT AN OFFICIAL COMPLAINT TO THE MINISTRY OF CONSUMER AND COMMERCIAL AFFAIRS WEBSITE ONLINE SYSTEM.

I've been officialy screwed over and they cannot prove continuity of their 'diagnostics'.

» Posted by: Oleh at February 17, 2005 09:12 PM

Hello

I am "currently" Employed as an Installer and "certified" Drive Clean Inspector by Canadian Tire 457 In Kanata.
First I would like to say that this particular store is filled to the brim with nothing but greedy manegement with the exception of maby 2 or 3 which have nothing to do with the Automotive department.

My Beef is not with the Employees, but with the management Who have Absoulutely No concern for your car whatsoever, All they care about is your money. Dont get me wrong, their very good actors when your waving your hard earned dollars in their face Ill give them that. But behind the scenes however Its all about dollars.
Their always pushing their hourley employees to "sell more" this means they want us to "shop" the car and look for something thats wrong.
Ive recently been fired for "not being productive" this means I havent sold enough off of peoples cars.
However in Respect to you blerb Ryan, I found a few holes in your story. I agree with you on the fact that this Canadian Tire should be Boycott, And I agree with you that you wernt being treated as a person, but as a dollar sign.
But the problem isnt the Mechanics.
My fellow employees are probly the best bunch of people Ive ever had the pleasure of working with.
Believe it or not they are Honest hard working people.
As for the holes in your story, You said that Mike said that you needed to replace your rear ball joints. On your particular vehicle there are no rear balljoints. And as for adjusting your motormounts after a drive axle replacement, Im not bullshitting you this really is unheard of
I would be consulting the people at haynes for that one.
The bottom line is that the Licenced mechanics and apprentices really do know what their doing, they are very experienced and tedious.
But however, My rant is not about the mechanics but about the Employers.
Since the store has been taken over by corperate office alot of things have changed.
For instance we as the employees are not trusted what so ever.
If you havent noticed already alot of Cameras have been installed in the store to "prevent theft and to protect our employees" I dunno, mabye im wrong but I never Thought I would have needed "protection" while Im eating lunch in a lunchroom where no customers are allowed.Oh and by the way our uniform lockers are also in there, this Classifies it as a change area so its Highley illigal.
As for the Up selling, They now have a sheet for all the installers to fill out what they sell on cars. They call it a "contest". The Person who sells the least...... Losses their Job!

» Posted by: Employee at February 18, 2005 03:16 PM

FRAUD AT IT'S FINEST

Took my vehicle into Crappy Tire Richmond Hill today for an Oil Change Special. It had been advertized that you get a Quaker State filter, and Quaker State Winter Oil. $35.00 seems like a pretty good price for this service.

It seems like it was a good thing I was keeping my eyes on the mechanic, rather than browsing the store.

The mechanic collected the materials to do the job, filter, 5 qts. of Q.S. Winter Oil, and raised the car on the hoist. No problems. Drained oil for a reasonably long time. Even better, get the crap out. Replaces filter, and drain plug and lowers car. "Conveniently" forgets to put in Q.S. Oil and proceeds to fill car with Bulk SHIT oil.

At this time, I attempted to go into the Garage to give the mechanic a piece of my mind. "You can't go in there sir... That's a restricted area". I pointed out that the mechanic was putting the wrong oil in my car. Oh, we'll speak to him about it. Sat back down, keeping a close eye on my vehicle. Driven out, without draining bulk oil. When I spoke to the manager, he flat out denied it. Then they took the car back in, drained it, and did the proper job.

I am considering pressing charges of FRAUD or False Advertising.

if I hadn't noticed, I would have been charged for the job, that wasn't done.

Don't take your car to Canadian Tire unless you're stranded and have no other options. If you have to, WATCH YOUR MECHANIC, wait, we can't call them mechanics. GREASE MONKEY.

Has anyone else had this problem?

Let this be a warning to you.

» Posted by: Allan Hrynkiw at February 25, 2005 10:34 PM

I took my car into Canadian tire a few months ago to get it checked out. When i started it, it would rev up and then almost stall and then rev up again and almost stall and then finally it would level out after a couple seconds and it would hesitate for a few seconds before it started. I went to part source and asked them what it might be and they told me that it might be my idle control but im pretty sure he misunderstood me because i had no problem when my car was idling, only starting. I took it into Crappy tire and told them what it was doing and they told me they'd take a look. A few hours later, they called me and, sure enough, they said it was the idle control AND the throttle body. Also, they told me that there was a problem with the emission control that i probably wouldnt have to get fixed untill the summer but it didnt have anything to do with my problem. I got them to fix it and i went to pick up my car, expecting it to work correctly, and paid the $225. a couple weeks later, the problem started up again. I took it back, with my work order, and they told me the problem was the emission control. I asked him why they had told me that i didnt need to get it done untill summer and he just told me that "these things go and you can never really tell how long you have". Nice of them to tell me this now. I got my car back after another $90 charge and, of course, there was no change. I made them take a look at it again the next day because all of their mechanics had left for the night. They called me about 3 times the next day telling me that they couldnt find anything but they are going to keep looking. The last time they called, He told me that he was going to clean the throttle body again and see if that works and a few hours later, they called and said my car was ready to be picked up. I went to pick it up and even though they warantee their work, they were going to RECHARGE me for the cleaning that i did not agree to (The mechanic told me he was going to do it). The problem started up again and i had a friend of mine, who is a mechanic, to look at it and he changed the plugs and wires and it was starting up fine. It was still hesitateing a little bit but he told me that was because the fuel pump is ready to go. I originally thought that this was the problem, but of course, Canadian tire decided to change and clean something else that did not need to be done. Because of this original charge, i am without a car and cannot get the fuel pump fixed due to a lack of "funds". Thanks alot Canadian tire.

» Posted by: Kevin W at March 8, 2005 10:56 AM
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