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Tim Bray has a nice summary of where the "browser wars" stand these days.

Getting Mozilla into companies is going to be hard, damn hard. Managers tend to have a if-it-ain't-broke-don't-fix-it mentality because change costs money, even with a free browser. What Mozilla needs is some compelling content that needs standards compliance to work properly. Dangle a carrot in front of people's faces to get them to download a free browser and try it. Stuff like SVG might be the next step.

Posted at July 20, 2003 at 09:42 PM EST
Last updated July 20, 2003 at 09:42 PM EST

The only problem with SVG is that no other browser supports it (although Opera will probably add it if Mozzy does), so it probably won't catch on.

» Posted by: Peter at July 21, 2003 06:09 PM

Ahh, but that's the idea. People will have to download Mozilla to see SVG. It's a W3C standard. If the content is good enough people will download Mozilla to see it.

» Posted by: Ryan at July 21, 2003 07:54 PM

Right.... just like no one uses Netscape 4 anymore...

(Sorry, I'm just bitter because everytime I create something nice in IE/Moz I have to spend two hours getting it to render right in NS4..)

» Posted by: Peter at July 23, 2003 08:05 PM

NS4 is dead. If the place you work for still targets apps for it, they are clueless and you should be bitter.

» Posted by: Ryan at July 23, 2003 10:21 PM

Oh, I am so bitter. I think that for here (gov't) we only "officially" support NS 4.7x and IE 5.5.

Something about not wanting to upgrade their apps because of the trouble that it would cause.

» Posted by: Jim at July 24, 2003 11:02 AM

*stabs NS4 in the neck*

» Posted by: roy at July 24, 2003 12:08 PM

Yeah, well two of the big clients at work still require NS4 compatibility so that's why they support it. It works out to something like 20,000 users so it's still pretty major...

I was actually having fun with NS4 yesterday trying to figure out if my code was actually messed up (which it wasn't) or if it was a NS4 issue. If you're bored, try outputting a reasonably complex page (something with a form and a few elements) to NS4 via javascript and then take a look at the source. Odds are some of the text will be messed..

» Posted by: Peter at July 24, 2003 06:16 PM
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